Well ladies and gents I am pleased to point you to some of the most insightful, clear eyed writing I’ve read in weeks at www.mrsbinoculars.com

I won’t spoil the fun by commenting except to say -

Mr. Chancey sir I salute you!

S.J.
“Now Matt’s fed up!”

Well sports fans, it seems in the pursuit of truth, justice, and a clean name for my friends, there is a new voice entering the fray. We were contacted earlier today by Matt Chancey. I have reprinted the message in its entirety (except for the removal of Mr. Chancey’s personal contact info).
We have taken great and scrupulous care to verify that Mr. Chancey is who he claims to be, and not somebody operating under a pseudonym.

Stay tuned for further news in this breaking story.

from: Matthew Chancey
to: swordbearerjohn@gmail.com
date: Dec 12, 2006
subject: FYI

Dear Fed Up,

I have observed your rigorous handling of the attacks by Ministry Watchman against Doug Phillips and BCA over the last couple of weeks on your website and have been encouraged.

As one who has known Doug for more than eleven years and observed him in various capacities and circumstances, I know his character to be above reproach, and given this fact, I felt compelled to no longer remain silent in the face of the numerous slanders that Ministry Watchman has lodged against him.

Over the last several days, I have conducted my own independent investigation of Ministry Watchman and would like to send you a full article, within the next 24-hours, for your review and consideration to post which explores the following questions:

——

“The Unmasking of Mrs. Binoculars”

> Are Ministry Watchman and Jennifer Epstein guilty of massive fraud on the public?

> Has the Internet community been manipulated and played for fools by a woman working behind the scenes for months to weave a web of deception capable of entrapping both friends and foe in order to ultimately carry out her vengeance?

> Mounting evidence points to Jennifer Epstein as at least one of the key individuals behind the launching of Ministry Watchman.

> Is Jennifer Epstein Mrs. Binoculars?

…Stay tuned for proposed answers to these questions and more.”

——

I will also be requesting that Pooh’s Think consider this article for publication as well.

I am offering you this as a third party, based on a third party investigation. It should be noted that I am not associated with any of the websites involved in this issue, nor have I ever posted on any. Neither am I an employee of Vision Forum, nor have I been asked or commissioned by Vision Forum or Doug Phillips to conduct this investigation, though I do strongly believe in Doug’s work and have been a friend and supporter of his ministry for years.

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.

Regards,

Matthew L. Chancey

xxx-xxx-xxxx – you may call for your verification purposes only. Please do not publish my phone number.

Posted by Swordbearer John at 8:15 AM

Good morning folks! Fallacy Slayer back again to make a few observations on the latest lies and cover up by the Blind Ministry Lap Dog of the Epstein’s. First, they assert that this site has obscene references. Obscene references: I don’t believe it. The only obscenities have come from members of the Epstein family who have used the f-word and others, as we have documented in other post. This is MW’s way of saying we don’t want anyone to be aware of our cover-up regarding the ongoing sins of the Epstein’s in direct relation to their adultery. After all, they have refused to post any comments on the facts. You can no longer bring up the marriage bed issue over at MW. Fallacy Slayer would like to point out that this is a tactic of what people engaged in a cover-up do. We will just shut down the discussion. We would rather talk about pools, about how stupid we think Beall Phillips is. That is o.k. but facts about the formerly anonymous accusers…? Don’t mention anything about them!

Hmmm, let me see if I get this straight. Ministry Lapdog covers up the fact that Jen Epstein–self-proclaimed prophet of integrity from Jens Gems and co-author of the articles on herself at MW—was disciplined for numerous sins including some directly related to her ongoing cruelty towards her husband (I’m glad my wife isn’t like this) in connection with an adultery she committed, a child born out of wedlock, and the fighting over the bed of adultery that went on all the way leading up to their excommunication.

But it gets worse: Ministry Lapdog raises numerous vicious attacks on women at BCA (I am talking mean-spirited and vicious) and supplies the internet with reams of hateful innuendo–never of course mentioning their own cover-up of these key facts. And lets not forget that it was Ministry Watchman that posted the documents raising issues of adultery so this subject could be discussed by the world. Now that they have been exposed as liars, who hid critical facts from the general public, who doctored documents, who attacked innocent people, and who spread gossip—and lets not forget this—who compromised all their integrity by turning their site into the personal web tool of Jennifer Epstein (whose credibility has been annihilated by her own words and actions)—NOW, they want to shut down discussion on the fact that Jennifer and Mark were fighting for 13 years over her sin.

Fallacy Slayer sees a big, BIG, problem with this one!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Ministry Watchman is no more. They are not a watchman of anything. They are now merely an extension of the Epstein household. They have staked their whole reputation on two excommunicants known (and now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt) for lying and deception. They believed that Doug Phillips counseled Ligonier Ministries in their lawsuit against Frank Vance, which was proven to be an outright lie by the VFM board (Read the VFM board statement). Since they had worked tirelessly to bring down Ligonier they thought they could bring down Phillips too! They have risked everything over a couple that spent more than a decade fighting like cats and dogs over the wife’s adultery. Even now they could save face, by recognizing that they have a tiger by the tail. I want to believe they were simply duped, but at this point they have the facts and appear committed to linking their integrity with the Epstein’s. Charles (I mean Jennifer Epstein) Fisher is now promising that there is going to be several more exposes on Phillips all with “primary source” documents in the future. Fallacy Slayer wants to know how can anyone believe anything she writes or says after everything she has said so far has been proven categorically false.

It’s over. Ministry Watchman is over.

I’m just the Fallacy Slayer…

Posted by Fallacy Slayer at 7:25 AM

Mike Metzler has contacted us and asked if we could post the orginial bogus email that Ministry Watchman sent out with the intentional purpose to deceive people into believing that it was from Vision Forum. Take a look for yourself folks:

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Doug Phillips, Family Man, Sabotages Marriage
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:39:00 -0600
From: V F
To:
“

Doug Phillips, Vision Forum Family Man Sabotages Marriage
http://ministrywatchman.com/?p=50

In a day of intense public scrutiny and criticism of nearly all things
Christian, Doug Phillips may be the most influential under-the-radar
Christian leader that you need to know more about. Best known for his
Vision Forum catalog — a colorful collection of apparently innocuous
family friendly products mailed to more than a million people each
autumn — Doug Phillips uses the wealth generated by his for-profit
sales, as well as donations from the public, to promote his vision on
controversial issues including education (home education is the only
Biblical method), birth control (wrong in all circumstances), politics
(a vote for either Kerry or Bush was a sin), and the roles of husbands
and wives (hyper-Patriarchy at home and at church). Doug Phillips
first came to the attention of those of us at Ministry Watchman when
he publicly defended his buddy, R.C. Sproul, Jr., defrocked after
confessing to ecclesiastical tyranny and the theft and illegal use of
a church denomination’s tax-ID number. Our curiosity was further
piqued when we learned of Doug Phillips’ behind-the-scenes counsel of
Ligonier Ministries in its unbiblical lawsuit against Christian
blogger, Frank Vance. These two incidents inspired a Ministry Watchman
investigation of Doug Phillips and Vision Forum. Our investigation is
still ongoing (please email us with any relevant information), but it
has already produced enough information for several compelling
articles that you won’t want to miss. The first, an exposé of how Doug
Phillips’ family practices have not matched his family preaching,
begins below. — MW …

Read the entire letter here.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now, I ask once again how can we believe anything these people say??????

I’m just the Fallacy Slayer…

Posted by Fallacy Slayer at 7:03 AM

The act of the Epsteins is not new, as is stated in the Boerne Christian Assembly declaration:

It is a strategic tactic, the goal of which appears to be to confuse uninvolved third parties and to deflect attention from the real sin of the couple and the due process of accountability brought against them by a covenanting body that knows them very well and has walked with them for many years.

In sum, their ongoing behavior has been consistent with some of the very issues for which they were excommunicated by the BCA congregation without a single vote in opposition.

The pattern of the Epstein’s has been consistent: Wife complains about husband being angry and unkind. Husband is angry about lack of submission, strong will, and issue of infidelity. Wife accuses husband of being unstable. Husband grows angrier. Wife lords over husband with words of repentance but no fruit and condemns husband for his sin. Both are confronted for sin. Wife feigns innocent, helpless, abused one. Husband runs to the aid of wife, unites in cause and declares himself to be the problem. Wife gloats in self-righteousness. This pattern is repeated over and over again – the man is emasculated.

This should be apparent even in their offered defense. Jen leads the charge. Jen is the voice. Mark says, yes ma’am. And, he is shamed before all as Jennifer offers her cavalier account of “The Parable of the Bed.” They spread their story abroad and then complain when people talk of it? They have sewn discord with one another, in a church, in a community, and now seek to go abroad. The man if further shamed before all, and Jennifer continues to sew her seeds of division.
Jennifer’s nonchalant attitude about something for which one should be ashamed (forgiven or not) should provide insight into the home of the Epsteins.

Do you see the fruit of the Spirit in her tone, accounts, or rehearsal of her sin? Why is she first in her cause and not her husband if so much unity now exists? If there is unity how is this helping their marriage – as she leads the fight for the family? What is going on here? On the one hand Jennifer is said to be this sweat, peaceful, submissive wife, who causes no trouble and doesn’t sin in her marriage, and on the other hand she is the outspoken tactical attorney lodging an attack? Can you image living with this woman? Have you not read the tone of her attitude?

Oh, but this is not kind you say. This is not Christian or loving to speak of them this way. These are the facts! The facts of their marriage and interaction with one another are not Christ-like! It is their story which is not loving. It is their home which has fallen apart. It is their children who are being lost! Speaking of these issues has been their choice – they have brought this before the world! Why? Because they don’t want to be held accountable. Boerne Christian Assembly’s comments are discreet. Jennifer and Mark have desired to publish abroad and then complain it all happened. They have forsaken their family for rebellion.

What should be desired? Repentance not to be repented of – bring forth fruit of repentance, which embraces the judgments of God:

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. (Ps 19:7-9)

The Epsteins are still in rebellion, and they’ve taken their temper tantrum to the streets and beyond.

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Rom 16:17-18)

Signed,

Sniffin

Posted by Sniffin at 9:56 PM

Among other misrepresentations, Ministry Watchman accused this site, STILL FED UP, of “filthy language.” While the previous site, dedicated to this current cause, did contain a word, which is less than comely, the articles and commentary of this site bear no signs or evidence of “filthy language.” To the contrary, we have attempted to maintain a civil environment void of expletives. However, STILL FED UP has received multiple comments from one claiming to be Natasha Epstein, knowing private details, who curses like a sailor – we have had to screen such comments. An attempt to bolster the Epstein’s credibility and question this site due to crass speech or irreverent tone is absurd – re-read Jen’s account of the bed of adultery for a reminder of their cavalier speech.

S.J.

Fallacy back again….

What in the world is Jen talking about? BCA leaders breaking a “privileged” communication about Jen’s adultery? Oh please!!!. This is yet just another example of Jen Epstein—minister of propaganda—Internet Terrorist—openly lying to the general public.

Fallacy Slayer wants to know if Jennifer has any idea what a “privilege” is? Obviously she is not dealing with any “privilege” in the Bible, since no such privilege exists. In fact, the Bible requires ongoing sins to be dealt with (Which is what BCA did). If people don’t deal with them, the people are to be brought before the church and corrected for their sins (Which is what BCA did). If they won’t hear the church, they are to be kicked out. (Matt 18) (Which is what BCA did).
Did they really think they could go to many witnesses for counsel, spill the beans of their sordid family crisis, both continue to sin on the very subject matter related to the adultery, and then prevent the leaders that they went to from holding them accountable for addressing the very issues? Fallacy Slayer is beginning to see some problems… Are they suggesting that church discipline may not involve addressing relevant facts? (By the way, can you imagine the kicking and screaming they would have done if they had been disciplined by BCA and no facts had been presented to the congregation—you can’t have it both ways Jen!)

Fallacy Slayer is going to ask again if this just another example of an Epstein legal threat? Yes, the same Epstein’s that hypocritically whined for months on the internet about how wrong it is for Christians to sue Christians, after they had themselves threatened leaders at BCA (see BCA document) with legal threats and then attempted extortion. News Flash for all those who may have forgotten: The Epstein’s NO longer have the protection of 1 Corthinians 6 as Excommunicants.
Fallacy Slayer and the others have been pointing these issues out for the last week and a half. However, over at the Blind Ministry Lapdog of the Epstein’s site they won’t even allow discussion of these issues.

Well obviously, now they are claiming that some supposed legal right has been violated—a clergyman-communicant privilege. Kind of like the attorney/client privilege. The problem here is that THEY DON’T HAVE THE FIRST IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT! They are literally making things up. Nobody has a “copyright” or “ecclesiastical privilege” to get counsel from a group of church leaders and then never, ever have their sins exposed if they continue in them.

You can do the google searches for yourself folks. Fallacy Slayer did. (Just like Jennifer does when she talks like a lawyer on her site) Here is what you will discover—the clergy privilege (where it even applies) prevents ordained ministers like Roman Catholic Priests from violating the rules of their Church by being compelled to testify on confidential matters, it does not prevent them from testifying. Also, it applies to a secular court, not a church. Also, it never even applies when there are multiple people present or exposed to the facts.

Is Jennifer suggesting that she or Mark were alone with Phillips and that they revealed this “big secret” to no one but him. This is really, really hard to believe. It is especially hard to believe given the fact that all the evidence, which she is in and she has revealed to indicate that there were always multiple parties involved in meetings with the two of them. That is what the documents (some of which have now been revealed to be dishonestly doctored by Jennifer to mislead people into thinking there was only one person) indicate! (See some of Fallacy Slayer’s other post for discussions on this point) Let’s just make sure we keep dealing with the actual facts folks, and not the fantasies of Jennifer Epstein.

Fallacy Slayer would also like to point out that beyond this absurd privilege claim is that fact that Jennifer is her own worst enemy. She cannot control herself, so she spreads information about her own adultery to hundreds and hundreds of people—now thousands—through her letters and now the Internet.

Folks, isn’t it clear that we are dealing with bitter people that will do just about anything for vengeance? Fallacy Slayer thinks it is VERY CLEAR!!!!!

I’m just the Fallacy Slayer

Well folks, Fallacy Slayer back again to point out some important points and set the record straight about Jen Epstein telling the world all about her adultery. There is no mention of Jen Epstein’s adultery in the BCA document. Read the document for your self folks. www.boernechristianassembly.org. I couldn’t find it in there. The BCA document mentions a lot of serious sins, many I would guess were related to the ongoing, never-ending battles over her adultery, but there is no mention of the adultery. Hmmm??? This isn’t looking good to the Fallacy Slayer.

Also, BCA apparently had to deal with the issue directly for years (according to their statement) and then at the time of her excommunication, had to present the facts. I have yet to see one shred of evidence that they said or did anything inappropriate here. How about all of you?

Fallacy Slayer will state once again that the question remains: How did the world know about Jen’s adultery? The answer: They learned about it from Jennifer herself.

What? Yes, that’s right, the world learned about it from Jennifer herself.
Most people know that after covering up the real issues related to her sins in the first article that Jen Epstein/Charles Fisher wrote and sent around the country, that in her second article she attached documents mentioning her adultery. Do you understand what is happening here—Jen Epstein brought this information to the Internet. Oh, she diminished it and minimized it—but she leaked it to the Internet.

Fallacy Slayer wants to point out what some people might not understand. Before this happened, Jen had already spread the news through her own community in Texas. Why did she do this? Because she was angry at her discipline. Just how did she do it? Well, she drafted a seventeen page letter demanding that the men and women of BCA repent to her and then gave guidelines to specific men and women for how they must go about repenting to her. Can you believe this folks??? Is this what the Bible requires of those whose excommunicate someone? That they then repent to the excommunicant? Fallacy Slayer is having a hard time understanding this one.

One of her complaints was that she had been excommunicated for ongoing sins related to her adultery. She thought that was unfair—so she told the world. In fact, she sent the seventeen page letter to many people (that’s how we got a copy of it), passed it around the community, and, of course, it continued to be passed around the community. I have been hearing about this story for a long time and so have others not related to BCA. This meant that more and more people were talking about Jennifer Epstein’s adultery and the facts of her adultery. Frankly, I can barely believe how restrained those BCA people are. They did not spell this out in their formal statement.

Jennifer, on the other hand is shameless.

Inquiring minds want to know why hasn’t anyone else pointed this FACT out?

I’m just the Fallacy Slayer